|English female clothing 1550|
I'm glad I don't have my grandmother and grandfather on the same tree, in this case, because only one set of dates/marriages would have appeared...that's one of the foibles of Ancestry. If a lot of trees say one thing, it's considered fact. Not necessarily!
So my grandfather's tree (GER) has a line going back to Rev. John Rogers, the Martyr, (1506-1554) and further. His son Bernard (1543-1609) would be my 12-times-great grandfather.
And Bernard's sister, Elizabeth Rogers (1553-1634), (perhaps the last child of Rev. John Rogers the Martyr) who married James Proctor. She would have been my 12-times-great aunt on my grandfather, George Rogers' tree (GER)....not a direct ancestor!
Historic background: Rev. John Rogers was a proponent of protestantism, and helped translate a version of the Bible into English along with other early translators (who weren't burned). He gave a sermon denouncing the papacy and other anti-Catholic opinions to an audience including Queen Mary, the Catholic.
|Wife and family watching first martyr of Queen Mary's reign, Rev. John Rogers being burned at the stake.|
|Source maybe 9th edition of the famous Protestant martyrology, Fox's Book of Martyrs|
Rev. John Rogers the Martyr - burned at the stake by Bloody Mary (Queen briefly from 1553-1558) the Catholic Queen who wanted England to return to Catholicism, before Elizabeth went back to protestantism that her father Henry VIII started so he could maybe have a legitimate son with one of his many wives. (I know there were other forces at work, and this is a simplistic description!)
People! Really! And we worry about a President of the US these days who acts childishly. We could easily cite Henry VIII's actions, which I dare say Trump would like to enact as well.
New information on Ancestry:
OK, now I've been looking at my grandmother's tree (AS) and I have recently read one part of a privately published biography which assures some descendants that Elizabeth Rogers (now 1549-1612) married Thomas Ayers(Eyre) and their son John Ayer (1587/90-1657) immigrated to Salisbury, Massachusetts in 1637. There he writes a will in 1657 leaving his goods to his wife Hannah and their children born in America. This is the book title: Ancestors of Silas Ayers and Mary Byram Ayers : including the Alden, Ayers and Byram families, published by Ancestry.
Yes in this new biography Elizabeth Rogers Ayers had no son, Capt. John Thomas Ayers who married a Swasey...at least in their book! Their interests were in a line of Ayers, not Swaseys. The Swasey's also published a book, with their surname in lines of descendants. (AS)
Following back further on AS tree, this Elizabeth Rogers (1549-1612) is also listed daughter of martyr Rev. John Rogers, (1507-1555) Here she's possibly my 10th times-great grandmother. The dates put her in the same generation, but marrying Thomas Ayers rather than someone by the name of Proctor (GER). On this tree (AS) Mrs. Thomas (Elizabeth Rogers) Ayers doesn't live as long, but her son John Thomas Ayers, captain, comes to Ipswich in New England by 1622 and connects to my grandmother's Swasey line. I tend to believe this information over the newly discovered (to me) family biography which is actually also now available on the AS tree. I just haven't added it yet, and am keeping the biography as a source of information, yet to be proven true.
As always, the women in history were not given much information. Someone lived and gave birth to the children, and maybe her first name was recorded, but not always who her parents were.
I just upgraded my Ancestry subscription so I can read documents from other countries. This is the source of this new information.
Are you confused yet? Me too.
Which one is true? Ah, in these days of Fake News, I know not.
So for now I'm looking at this information with a grain of salt.
Or let's say I'm not letting it get my goat!
Which is how I'm linking all this to Sepia (though it's a stretch!) ...
I'm mainly mad that all the data and photos I'd collected for Rev. Rogers the Martyr were recently deleted from my tree. I only opened my Rogers tree for public use when I had my DNA test done, and in that few days someone added a lot of cousins and their photos, and apparently took off some of the data I'd collected. I've made my tree private again so others can't make changes to it! My choice has always been to have only photos of those in my direct line, not of all the cousins. That's how I know someone else had added them.
I at least went to my Rogers cousin's version of our family tree and copied back the photos of the data for Rev. Rogers. I can't edit things there, but can see them! Thanks Pat!
I refuse to get another headache from Ancestry. But do you know how many hours I've spent looking at this particular patch of our tree? Way too many!